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BostonR56S · 09-01-2011, 07:23 AM

O2? lol

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silhouette88 · 09-01-2011, 10:01 AM

(08-31-2011 09:22 AM)ThumperMCS Wrote: Cannot believe you're still on your first tank! Give me 5 minutes around the block in your car and I'll have it empty...lol

Hey guess what? My water level light just came on this morning. Never thought I'd be thrilled to see that. Smile

Going to add some rough 75/25 when I get home from work and see what the IAT difference is.

Buli · 09-01-2011, 11:02 AM

(09-01-2011 10:01 AM)silhouette88 Wrote:
(08-31-2011 09:22 AM)ThumperMCS Wrote: Cannot believe you're still on your first tank! Give me 5 minutes around the block in your car and I'll have it empty...lol

Hey guess what? My water level light just came on this morning. Never thought I'd be thrilled to see that. Going to add some rough 75/25 when I get home from work and see what the IAT difference is.

So when it came on, did you go into limp mode?

silhouette88 · 09-01-2011, 11:09 AM

(09-01-2011 11:02 AM)Buli Wrote: So when it came on, did you go into limp mode?

No, I don't have the failsafe wires tapped in so it wouldn't. But even if I did it shouldn't because there's still a good amount of fluid in the tank when the led comes on. I mean good amount as in, if you drive it nice (like I was) you shouldn't have to worry about it running out and sucking air, and tripping the failsafe.

ThumperGP · 09-01-2011, 11:13 AM

I also don't have my failsafe wires tapped...I don't see the point until you get tuned for meth.

Buli · (This post was last modified: 09-01-2011 11:32 AM by Buli.)

(09-01-2011 11:09 AM)silhouette88 Wrote:
(09-01-2011 11:02 AM)Buli Wrote: So when it came on, did you go into limp mode?

No, I don't have the failsafe wires tapped in so it wouldn't. But even if I did it shouldn't because there's still a good amount of fluid in the tank when the led comes on. I mean good amount as in, if you drive it nice (like I was) you shouldn't have to worry about it running out and sucking air, and tripping the failsafe.

So it would not go into failsafe from the level switch, but it will from flow outside of expected. If you had it hooked up. Correct?

(09-01-2011 11:13 AM)ThumperMCS Wrote: I also don't have my failsafe wires tapped...I don't see the point until you get tuned for meth.

I thinking was that the ECU would self tune/adjust to it. I know if I switch from 93 to 91 octane I get knock at idle for a while. I sure wouldn't want to get knock at high rpm from going from the high octane with the meth to low if the meth stopped flowing. That was how I was thinking it might work, and why I will hook the failsafe from the start.

silhouette88 · 09-01-2011, 11:41 AM

(09-01-2011 11:25 AM)Buli Wrote: So it would not go into failsafe from the level switch, but it will from flow outside of expected. If you had it hooked up. Correct?

As far as I know, this is correct.

ThumperGP · (This post was last modified: 09-01-2011 11:46 AM by ThumperGP.)

(09-01-2011 11:25 AM)Buli Wrote: I thinking was that the ECU would self tune/adjust to it. I know if I switch from 93 to 91 octane I get knock at idle for a while. I sure wouldn't want to get knock at high rpm from going from the high octane with the meth to low if the meth stopped flowing. That was how I was thinking it might work, and why I will hook the failsafe from the start.

It does to a degree, but this is no where near the same as if you were to get tuned with meth. The amount of timing advance you can run when doing a meth tune is far greater than the self-advance the ECU will do. Also, in regards to AFR's, you have the ability to really lean out the motor when you tuning with meth. Our ECU isn't going to go leaner than the tune your using is telling it to. It will simply lean itself out to try and reach whatever its target lambda might be. So, when using it how we are currently using it, setting up the failsafe is not nearly as critical.

Side note, you should not be getting knock at idle from 2 octane points lower. Out west we only get 91....so I find it hard to believe that it would be knocking under 0 load at idle.

Buli · 09-01-2011, 12:07 PM

(09-01-2011 11:45 AM)ThumperMCS Wrote:
(09-01-2011 11:25 AM)Buli Wrote: I thinking was that the ECU would self tune/adjust to it. I know if I switch from 93 to 91 octane I get knock at idle for a while. I sure wouldn't want to get knock at high rpm from going from the high octane with the meth to low if the meth stopped flowing. That was how I was thinking it might work, and why I will hook the failsafe from the start.

It does to a degree, but this is no where near the same as if you were to get tuned with meth. The amount of timing advance you can run when doing a meth tune is far greater than the self-advance the ECU will do. Also, in regards to AFR's, you have the ability to really lean out the motor when you tuning with meth. Our ECU isn't going to go leaner than the tune your using is telling it to. It will simply lean itself out to try and reach whatever its target lambda might be. So, when using it how we are currently using it, setting up the failsafe is not nearly as critical.

Side note, you should not be getting knock at idle from 2 octane points lower. Out west we only get 91....so I find it hard to believe that it would be knocking under 0 load at idle.

It is not knocking from 91 octane, it is knocking from the change from 93 to 91. It seems to take a tank or more to stop. This has happened all 3 times I couldn't get to the station that has the 93. The knocks happen on a hot day, AC on at idle after I changed from 93 to 91 octane. Maybe that points to a problem with my car.

Good to know about the lower risk with a none meth tune.

ThumperGP · 09-01-2011, 12:53 PM

(09-01-2011 12:07 PM)Buli Wrote: It is not knocking from 91 octane, it is knocking from the change from 93 to 91. It seems to take a tank or more to stop. This has happened all 3 times I couldn't get to the station that has the 93. The knocks happen on a hot day, AC on at idle after I changed from 93 to 91 octane. Maybe that points to a problem with my car.

Good to know about the lower risk with a none meth tune.

Still though, it should not knock from a 2 point drop in octane, especially at idle when there is 0 load. I've gone from 101 octane back to 91 which is much more of a dramatic drop, and didn't experience knocking issues. (except when my HPFP was dying)